yea yea I know what road&track and car&driver says but I personaly know two people who have them and let me set the record strait thay arnt that bad! I have beat them so bad it makes me feel bad. I know your going to look at my profile and say yea of course you did but point is I have had much better races from mild supras,supercharged factory mustangs and other cars you would think the Z-06 would kill.hell my wifes A6TT gives them a pretty good run! And these guys teach at road atlanta for panos so it isnt driver error.